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Sunday, September 16, 2007


Wednesday, September 12, 2007

By Susan Estrich

Susan Estrich

LOS ANGELES —

The Democrats, especially the Democrats running for president, have a problem, and his name is Petraeus.

In two days of hearings on Capitol Hill, he probably didn’t change any of the views held by members of Congress about the war in Iraq. But he almost certainly impressed a lot of people sitting at home by displaying all the traits Americans hope for in a military leader.

He was, to put it simply, good, a man who came across as brave, honorable, and true, and that’s the problem.

On Monday, the day Petraeus was to begin his testimony, in the great tradition of Washington politics, MoveOn.org blasted him before hearing a word of it. In a full page ad in the New York Times, that became the talk of Congress, the talk shows, and cable news (as it was supposed to), the liberal group accused Petraeus of "cooking the books," and charged that he was betraying the American peoples' trust by spinning the facts to support the White House.

That is, by the way, how MoveOn itself summarized the ad, in an email to its supporters sent the next day, giving notice that it wasn’t backing down.

The ad made some Democrats uncomfortable because of its harsh tone, and gave Republicans a juicy distraction to attack. With polls showing that most Americans trust the military to deal with the war in Iraq far more than they do either the president or Congress, MoveOn’s choice of targets put those Democrats who need the support of both the hard left and the mushy middle squarely between a rock and a hard place.

It’s one thing to attack the president as a fool and a bumbler, as misguided in his policy and incompetent in its execution. That’s easy: almost everyone outside Bush’s family will agree with you, even the Republican candidates, who are generally the ones forced into an elaborate two-step as they try to defend the war and distance themselves from the Commander-in-Chief who has been in charge of it.

But attacking the General who oozes courage, fortitude and decency?

That’s a bit trickier, to say the least. Barack Obama, commenting/questioning the general about the options in Iraq, noted that there aren’t any good ones, only bad and worse ones. He might also have been describing his own situation, not to mention his friend Hillary’s.

There’s no question what the Left wants. Why don’t these guys (and girls) have any courage, a very left leaning friend demanded of me recently. Why aren’t they angry? Why don’t they start screaming bloody murder? Why don’t they demand that the troops start coming home NOW?

That is, figuratively speaking, not only what MoveOn is doing, but what it is demanding. In his new book, “The Argument,” Matt Bai, after carefully researching MoveOn and other new generation Democratic activists and bloggers, concludes that what they are offering is not so much a new vision as a new strategy; that they are seeking to match the “right wing conspiracy,” which spews out faxes and statements every day, blogs on Drudge and speaks through Rush and Hannity, with a left-wing version, which spews just as much ink, blogs on Huffington, and speaks through Olberman.

You control fires by building new ones, or at least you meet fire with fire, and if we all end up in the rubble, you certainly can’t blame the people who fought back second rather the ones who started it first. The Left has, in a word, adopted the tactics of the right. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

Primaries are won on the Left and Right. General elections are won in the middle. That’s the problem Petraeus poses for Democrats. If he could convince MoveOn, this would be easy. But he can’t and won’t. The danger is that he convinces folks in the middle that it would be irresponsible to simply pull out troops now, rather than trying to stabilize the situation further, that there is enough improvement both politically and militarily at the grass roots level to follow his schedule, rather than a Democratic one, that he knows what is happening on the ground in Iraq better than people who aren’t there.

The risk for Democrats is that those who take him on will be seen as naïve or weak or beholden to the Cindy Sheehans, which is not a direct route to the Oval Office. The other risk is that those who don’t will be attacked and belittled for failing to do so, and will never make it to the finals in this contest. It was a whole lot easier when this was just Bush’s war.

Susan Estrich makes some good points

Even though Susan Estrich about makes me cringe when I listen to her on TV.

I'm sorry folks for putting an older article here but when I read what Susan Estrich wrote I thought how appropriate this fits with my previous posts.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

While I don't care for Susan Estrich at ALL, and I'm like you ... I can't stand to hear her talk... She's right that elections are won in the middle. Folks like Hillary are trying to stay in the middle, while at the same time pleasing the nutjobs like MoveOn.org. You can't really do that and claim to have any integrity.

Susan says that MoveOn.org is like Rush, Hannity, and Drudge? That's just crazy talk.

You were kind to use her 'after plastic surgery' picture hehehe

Wild Phil said...

Hi Debbie,

Yea I know that is what impressed me is that she could realize that and yet the Dems keep trying to pander to the far left, they never seem to get it. In fact they have been doing that, that way for a long time.

Well Debbie I do try to be kind! LOL :)

Always On Watch said...

Even though the ad makes the Dems uncomfortable, they won't denounce it. This is going to hurt them in 2008, IMO, because the average person on the street likes Petraeus.

Estrich is right from time to time, BTW.

Always On Watch said...

Off topic....I just now finally got around to putting your link on my sidebar. Apologies for the delay.

Wild Phil said...

Hi Always on watch,

You are correct that Estrich is right from time to time. Thank you for putting my link on your side bar, I appreciate that a lot.

Jonathan said...

I always get a kick out of seeing the woman who managed Dukakis' horrific campaign being referred to as an "expert"! LOL!

Anonymous said...

I had to suspend disbelief when I saw the vile "ad" in the Old Gray Fishwrap and heard the despicable way the General was treated during the hearings.

The "progressives" know no bounds; absolutely shameless.

SCUM

Anonymous said...

they Truly looked evil. I agree with the pundant that said the Moveon ad was a McCarthy momement. I love seeing the dems catch the heat they desertve

Robert said...

She is a smart woman, despite her personal politics. While she can be way off base with some of her liberal assertions, she has the intellect to analyze situations such as these.

Good post.